Brake problem poor pedal series forum the land rover forum. Once the prep work is done, bleeding the brakes is relatively. Forums land rover forums series land rovers this site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Brake bleeding is always a hot topic, so if you disagree with anything here or want to share your. Brake bleeding your defender part 1 the fine art of land rover maintenance. Series 2a brakes nightmare discussion in series land rovers started by swidds, jan 3. Problem with breaks the breaks need pumping to work and if you leave them for about 4 secs the pressure is gone again. For the life of me i cant seem to get the brakes bled on my series 3 lwb no matter how hard i try. Abs, whatever, and you need to bleed the system afterwards, there is actually a 3 step procedure on the brake bleeding. From your descriptions, you dont sound like you have a hydraulic problem, and thus bleeding might not accomplish much.
Jun 29, 2014 take a look at the britpart lynx interface unit in the special functions for bleeding out the wabco d abs modulator and whole vehicle brake hydraulic system. Other bleeding brakes on series 2 hi all hope someone can give me. Bleeding brakes on series 2 land rover forums land rover. The reservoir was easy enough to replace, just tap out the two pins holding it in the cylinder and pull it out of the seals that it sits in. Autozone repair guide for your brakes bleeding the brake system bleeding the brake system. There are 5 disc brake conversion kits for series land rovers that i am aware of. Warning do not allow the fluid level in master cylinder to fall below the min mark during the bleeding procedure. I have a 1 man bleed procedure that works well and has never let me down get yourself a 1m length of clear tube that fits tight onto the bleed nipple, get a clear glass jar like a coffee jar with lid and drill a hole in the lid to suit the tube.
Take a look at the britpart lynx interface unit in the special functions for bleeding out the wabco d abs modulator and whole vehicle brake hydraulic system. Thus in my opinion the sequence should be, on a lh driven car with the. I did double check the rave cd and there is no mention of a pressure bleeder except for getting the fluid into the reservoir more easily. Landyzone is the biggest land rover forum on the net. Lr workshop is the free, community generated database of land rover parts information. These instructions are for vehicles that use glycol based dot 3, 4 and 5. I didnt separately bleed my modulator, i just did the brake bleed process, activated my hdc, then did one more thorough brake bleed, and it seems to have done the trick, but. When bleeding the brakes i always was having the idea since about 40 years it should start with the wheel the fartest away from the main brake cylinder and to work towards the closest.
I would love to know how land rover did it as they left the factory. Land rover series maintenance brake bleeding atlantic british. Hi all i am having big problems with bleeding my brakes, is there a certian sequence. Hotshot, youre spot on about the reverse bleeding method. Ill be painting the calipers as well, a nice cherry red. Some new parts for those old girls arent made the best these days. Follow the bleed sequence listed in the discovery 2 workshop manual. May 18, 2011 bleeding is always a problem on these twin leading shoe systems.
Discovery series ii the lounge discovery series i range rover classic general land rover discussion. My front disc brake conversion using the kit made by torrel industries ltd, sold through rocky mountain expedition equipment ltd. Series 2a brake questionhelp after adjusting each brake hub, i drove the 2a and when i press on the brakes, nothing. Pumping pedal gives good pressure, but still spongy.
I have bleed brakes on nonabs rangies and series landrovers many times over the last couple of decades and found my current abs classic the easiest of the them all to bleed as you dont have to pump brakes or anything like that. Feb 20, 2015 brake bleeding your defender part 1 the fine art of land rover maintenance. Air pressure brake bleeder pm1241 land rover easy one man. Ive read so many postings on the perils of brake bleeding that im dreading the first time i have to do emmas 109 exmil. Bleeding an abs system on a land rover defender discovery 2. Land rover technical specifications expedition land rover. I finally took it to a garage to bleed the brakes, they phone me up and said the reason the brake bleeding isnt working is that the pipes are connected wrongly, they should feed in from the bottom and bleed at the top. Brake problem poor pedal series forum the land rover. For this reason alone it is necessary to keep the system in good condition in order to get the most effective braking possible. I put a defender one in my current project just yesterday to go with a disc conversion, i did have to rebend the pedal to straighten it up as it is bent to the right on a defender not leaving much room in my footwell.
Partial bleeding of the hydraulic system is only permissible if a brake pipe or hose has been disconnected with only minor loss of fluid. However due to electronics, the correct bleeding sequence for the infiniti g35 is right rear, left front, left rear, and finally right front. One method of locating the air is to put clamps on all 3 of the flexible bare hoses that are common to all series land rovers with the 3 hoses. Bleeding land rover brakes technical matters back room. Oct 02, 20 brake and clutch slave cylinder bleeding. The other end of the tubing should be immersed in a few cc of brake clutch fluid in a transparent plastic bottle. The best i can get is a little bit of pressure with the pedal near the floor. Ive fitted a complete new brake system to my 1967 series iia, but i cant bleed it. Bleeding the brakes on a series land rover the braking system on any series land rover is decades old technology, even if the individual component parts are new. Mar 19, 2004 i would recommend flushing the brake system, old brake fluid can cause soggy brakes. The reservoir is an autoplas one, no idea if it is original or not and ive decided to replace it with the correct landrover one which my eezibleed will fit, making bleeding the brakes a one man job.
Brake bleeding on a range rover or land rover duration. Series 2a brakes nightmare landyzone land rover forum. I tried bleeding conventionally with the units in place, but predictably it didnt work, so i had to go through my usual and long winded bleeding method using an ezibleed a bottle pressurised by tyre pressure and a draining jar with clear hose to the bleed nipple with as follows. Pressure bleeding is the most efficient and foolproof means of removing air from the braking system. We have plenty of very knowledgable members so if you have any questions about your land rover or just want to connect with other landy owners, youre in the right place. I wish i could have used it on eudora, our 77 swb series 3 when i replaced the whole brake system. I have a 1962 series 2a that i have consistently had issues with. We have front axle, rear axle, master cylinder and overhaul kits.
This web page attempts to guide you through the various common upgrade paths. Air pressure brake bleeder pm1241 land rover easy one. Landrover submitted 5 years ago by pollardismyname. As well as the reason given by tanuki, it also gives a big rush of fluid at each bleed nipple, which is very effective at shifting air. However, it is imperative that proper preparation and precautions are taken to ensure the integrity of the operation. So what were going to do is were going to get on our iland. With the system correctly depressurised, cracking a rear caliper. Back in the 60s im sure i read in a land rover workshop manual that in the event of brake bleeding difficulty the vehicle should be driven over rough ground and allowed to stand overnight, then bled again. Richards advice about clamping the brake shoes is good. Brake pipes diagrams find land rover parts at lr workshop. We always guarantee great quality at the best prices. Stop lamp switch 1968 on no servo and discovery upto 1994 and range rover classic h3735l. Brake bleeding problems series forum lr4x4 the land. Sep 27, 2017 pdwa valve rebuild on a series iii dont bypass a faulty brake failure switch.
You should not have to pump your brake pedal to get your rover to stop. The nipple can then be loosened and the clutch peddle pumped by hand photo 3 until no further air bubbles are seen to come from the end of the rubber. You should not use dot 3 brake fluid in your system. Do not allow fluid level in master cylinder to fall below min mark during bleeding. Checked the drums and theyre within tolerance and nicely round. Brakes in series series 3 parts brakes from john craddock ltd.
Aug 16, 2017 watch doug, our land rover master technician, show you how to bleed the brakes on a range rover full size, 2003 2005 l322. I went with a set of ss brake lines purchased from british atlantic, r1 concepts drilled and slotted brake rotors, and ceramic brake pads. You will need a 2nd person to pump the brake pedal while you brake the bleeder screws. Well when i took the module out most of the fluid from reservoir drained out. Bleeding brake after abs module fix land rover and range. Having difficulty bleeding up your brakes or hydraulic clutch system on your series land rover, defender, range rover or discovery then. The following procedure covers bleeding the complete system but where only the primary or secondary circuit have been disturbed in isolation, it should only be necessary to bleed that system. Learn how you can bleed the brakes on your land rover or range rover. Brake bleeding for land rover series vehicles applies to. This site aims to become the defacto source of information on land rover parts, by being more accessible than microcat, more unbiased than the retailers, better curated than the forums and more accurate than all of them. Bleeding brakes on discovery 2 landyzone land rover forum.
I have been told they are harder to do because of thin lines and long vertical drops in combination with modern brake fluid being thicke. Brake pipe set series 3 88 dual early to 1980 da7409. I have not used a pressure bleeder, so you might well all tell me thats where im going wrong, but id like to run it past you anyway. Brake bleeding on a range rover or land rover watch doug, our land rover master technician, show you how to bleed the brakes on a range rover full size, 2003 2005 l322. I have to pump it twice or 3 times to get pressure and make it stop. Land rover series 3 brake lights and clutch biting point adjustment duration. Im not sure what the size of the bleeder screw is on the discos calipers but you may be able to find a set of speed bleeders for them. The process of bleeding the brakes will be the same other than the speed bleeders have a one way check valve built into them so you would only need to crack them loose and pump the brakes. Mar 11, 2009 used the traditional brake bleed method, the vacuum method and syringe method still a poor pedal. Bleeding brakes in a series 2a australian land rover owners.
Mar 18, 2014 i have been trying to get the brakes bled on my series 2b rebuild for three weeks. Overview of series land rover disc brake conversion. Land rover forums series land rovers this site uses cookies. Land rover series 2, 2a and series 3 brakes paddock spares. Dot5, or silicon brake fluid will work properly in your land rovers hydraulic systems but do not mix it with any other hydraulic fluid. Please always refer to your factory service manual for the proper bleeding sequence. Series brake bleeding it takes 5 or more pumps to get some brakes, ive replaced all the shoes with better ones new rear, meaty secondhand ones of my iii on front replaced all the leaking brake lines, replaced all seals in slave cylinders and bled the brakes conventionally starting at the one furthest away working my way back to the closest. Specifically the brake pressure is significantly lacking. Discussion in series land rovers started by astro ash. These are out of production but you may occasionally find someone selling an old set on ebay or a boot sale. Used the traditional brake bleed method, the vacuum method and syringe method still a poor pedal. I would still do the brake bleeding process that ive linked to in the video though. Discussion in series land rovers started by andyrooj, feb 18, 2011.
The previous owner of my my disco had the rotors and pads replaced by land rover at 48k miles because he. This seems to be the best system on any drum brake land rover. I have replaced all four wheel cylinders, the master cylinder, and the flexible brake lines and none of this helped. Series land rover front disc brake conversion kits. Brake bleeding your defender part 1 the fine art of. I have been told they are harder to do because of thin lines and long vertical drops in combination with modern brake fluid being thicker these days. Hi everyone i have a 1976 series 3 lwb and have been bleeding brakes for weeks now and still have an air lock. If not, you are describing the frustrations of land rover drum brake adjustments, shared by many enthusiasts on this forum. Help series 3 brake bleeding problems landyzone land. If any components upstream of brake modulator, including the modulator itself are replaced, the brake system must be bled using the procedure on.
Hi all, sorry if this has been covered already but if so i must have missed it and therefore my request. How to bleed the brakes on a land rover series vehicle. And one of the steps, or actually the 2 last steps you do need a diagnostic tool that will complete this procedure. New member needs advice on uprating brakes on a series 2a. Are there any special tricks in bleeding brakes on a series 2a. Early 90110 brake pedal assemblies with the type 50 servo will also bolt in place if you cant get a good series 3 one. Air pressure brake bleeder pm1241 land rover easy one man brake bleeder. I know this is a very hot topic, but having some odd issues trying to bleed the brakes on my rrc. I read one of the post by rovin4life senior member join date. After bleeding the brakes, ive a good firm brake pedal and the brakes are great without the wheels.
Jun 04, 20 air pressure brake bleeder pm1241 land rover easy one man brake bleeder. What is the procedure to bleed the brake after abs module replacement. Watch doug, our land rover master technician, show you how to bleed the brakes on a range rover full size, 2003 2005 l322. Overview of series land rover disc brake conversion kits. May 31, 2005 hotshot, youre spot on about the reverse bleeding method. Series brake bleeding australian land rover owners. As i understand things, our brakes are undersized for our vehicles. Partial bleeding of the hydraulic system is only permissible if a brake pipe or hose has.
Clutch bleeding on a series land rover series 1, 2 and 3. I have clean brake fluid when i started the abs shuttle switch fix. Pdwa valve rebuild on a series iii dont bypass a faulty brake failure switch. You have just bled your brakes on your own and easily. For those who want to go a step farther i have a page providing an overview of available disc brake conversions that you can add to the power dual brake system. The problem im having is that after bleeding them the pedal goes all the way to floor. Brake bleeding your defender part 1 the fine art of land. Using the iland diagnostic app for brake bleeding on.